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In the experiences I've had, a vortex dropped my battleships relatively quickly seeing as it has 2 nuclear bombs it launches almost instantaneously after engaging. Depending on if either race has any of the capital ship health, damage, accuracy, health, etc. research done affects this, but on stock loadouts with all subsystems built for each ship, And the research only pertaining to each vessel, I find that the vortex runs out on top.

Now if i wanted to do this right, I could get one of those starter scripts, and custom make a script to spawn 1 vaygr battleship and 1 hiigaran vortex with all subsystems and research and see which one comes out on top.
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Its tricky though, because the Vortex has the option of the Light Battle Asset with 12 two-barreled kinetic cannons and boosts to drive and speed, the Medium Battle Asset with 12 three-barreled kinetic cannons and not boosts, and the Heavy Battle Asset with 12 six-barreled kinetic cannons with boosts to aim, health, and damage. I love me the Heavy Battle Asset.
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it has 2 nuclear bombs it launches almost instantaneously after engaging.

But the nukes are useless! They detonate instantaneously as they leave the ship. The only thing they damage is their own launching ship. (If they launch at all, that is. Mine only launch on about 25% of the occasions I try to use them.)
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it has 2 nuclear bombs it launches almost instantaneously after engaging.

But the nukes are useless! They detonate instantaneously as they leave the ship. The only thing they damage is their own launching ship. (If they launch at all, that is. Mine only launch on about 25% of the occasions I try to use them.)


I'm sorry Vila. Vortexes are rising up against you. Lol.
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That's certainly what it feels like. I've never had a Vortex obey a movement command while in action. Just moving across the map is fine, no problem, but in battle? Forget it! The only way I can persuade mine to move to a different position is by jumping them.
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Ok, I'm not playing Complex for a while now (bad period...not time to play...and it will be so until july, Crying or Very sad) and I haven't tryed 7.4.4 yet but I don't think your problem is something new so I don't understad what vortexes have against you Confused
I haven't so many problems with vortexes. Yes, nukes detonate instantaneously as they leave the ship sometimes but not so frequently.
You should pay attention to 2 factors, imo:
- target's position
- vortex's horizontal plane inclination (hope that's correct translation)
The problems is that the nuke collides with the ships straight after being lauched.

For control issues I have no suggestion. Vortexes follow my orders most of the times. Maybe orders you give go against vortex's base moves
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Filippo.zp wrote:
Yes, nukes detonate instantaneously as they leave the ship sometimes but not so frequently.

First salvo always detonates immediately. By the time they reload, if the Vortex is still alive the nukes will be unnecessary and if fired successfully will wander off to attack some other target (usually a fighter Confused ).

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You should pay attention to 2 factors, imo:
- target's position
- vortex's horizontal plane inclination (hope that's correct translation)
The problems is that the nuke collides with the ships straight after being lauched.

I know what the problem is but nothing I do cures it. It's all very well saying "pay attention", but in what way?

No weapons should launch in such a way that they collide with their own ship, that's ridiculous and illogical. The same goes for the shuttle nukes, which detonate before leaving the ship if fired while the ship is moving. This is apparently because the ship travels faster than the nuke. The is totally ridiculous because anything fired from a moving vehicle will have that vehicle's velocity in addition its own.
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This is apparently because the ship travels faster than the nuke. The is totally ridiculous because anything fired from a moving vehicle will have that vehicle's velocity in addition its own.

Dear Vila, I know that's ridiculous but Homeworld is not real. It remains a game, an inaccurate rappresentation of an other universe. It doesn't follow the rules our universe follows if we don't told it.
It should be fixed, someone should try (I haven't the required skills).

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It's all very well saying "pay attention", but in what way?.

Heh...
It's quite complicated for me to explain. English is not my first language and I should play the game to better explain my thoughts.
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nice 1 Filippo...
Turning to argument ... if you really want to give realism to the game, we follow very specific rules ...
I pass you a great site to read carefully ...
Have fun and good culture...
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Filippo.zp wrote:
English is not my first language

I would not have guessed that from your posts in this forum. Smile
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I would not have guessed that from your posts in this forum. Smile

Really? Very Happy I'm glad to read this, you've made me happy Very Happy

(Long bad errors' sequence incoming Confused)


Blackmane, it's huge! Shocked
Thank you, I will definitely have fun!
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Blackmane... thats one huge site and full of scientific oogalyboogbogwatchmecallit (wtf?) things. My dad would love to go in there! I dont know about realism... dont have a clue what the scale is in the game and ships move pretty fast and fighters move as fast as destroyers n frigates Shocked
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[color=#C6963]Realism: for those that have so little imagination and curiosity, they can't stand interacting with a world that follows different rules than those that they have become accustomed to.

On the other hand, I like my sonsensical whimsys heavily populated with realism. Actually, for me, I prefer my realism rather sparsely populated with whimsy. It's my human brain... it evolved to recognize, or create patterns. It isn't made to think, or understand outside of patterns.

Is it just me, or is English not the first language of the large majority of those who play HW2, and also the large majority of those who make or play mods for any game? Sometimes I wonder if I'm the only one. Then I remember that notion is rediculous, but I still wonder. Also it seems that nearly everyone it from Europe... I don't see too many north or south american, australian, oriental or islander folk snooping around mods or indie games.[/color]
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hell diguner wrote:
ISometimes I wonder if I'm the only one.

Nope.

hell diguner wrote:

nearly everyone it from Europe...

Guilty there Very Happy

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Is it me or have we not been talkin about a battleship lately... Well, to start it off on pg. 20, here is the hiigaran battleship from the hw2 PDS mod v811, or whatever the latest version is...

The battleship:

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I was thinking... armement...

FORWARD TOP:

2 3x Cannons
1 2x Plasma Cannon
1 2x Hvy ion Cannon

REAR TOP:

1 3x Cannon
1 2x Plasma cannon
1 2x Hvy Ion cannon

FORWARD BOTTOM:

1 3x Cannon
4 2x Kinetic Cannona
1 2x Hvy Ion cannon

REAR BOTTOM:

1 3x Cannon
2 2x Kinetic Cannon
1 2x Hyy Ion Cannon

SIDE RIGHT:

1 2x Plasma Cannon
1 2x Hvy Ion cannon
4 2x Kinetic Cannon
4 2x Flak Turrets
2 12x Torpedo Launcher
1 1x Nuke Launcher

SIDE LEFT:

1 2x Plasma Cannon
1 2x Hvy Ion cannon
4 2x Kinetic Cannon
4 2x Flak Turrets
2 12x Torpedo Launcher
1 1x Torpedo Launcher

INFO:

2-4 Module build (fire control, Defense control, Hyperspace ETC.)
Fighter, Corvette Facility.
Hangar hold 10 Fighter/Corvette
Dock with Battle ark and shipyard (optional)
Decreased build time in combat (optional)

Upgrade EXP.

3x Cannon -> 3x Cannon UPGRADE shell -> 6x Kinetic Cannon -> UPGRADE SHELL
2x Plasma Cannon -> 2x EMP Cannon w/ plasma -> 3x Plasma Cannon
2x Ion cannon -> 2x Heavy Ion Cannon -> 3x Uber Heavy Ion Cannon
2x Kinetic Cannon -> 3x Kinetic Cannon -> Upgrade Shell
12x Torpedo Launcher -> Increased Velocity -> Faster Reload -> 16x Torpedo Launcher
2x Flak Turret -> 2x Fast Flak Turret ---> 4x Hvy Fast Flak Turret
I-> Rapid Sweeper
1x Nuke Launcher -> 2x Nuke launcher -> Faster Reload -> Hvy Nuke

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That is my proposed BB. Feel free to edit it but keep the main thought in mind. Its to counter them Vagyr Dreadnoughts and BB...

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